The Camp Blood Convention Situation
Normally, I wouldn't bother writing about situations like these. I was a huge supporter of this event back in 2009 and did a lot of promotion for that show and also was looking forward to attending. After the announcement in late July 2010 that the convention was being postponed, I was pretty disappointed and felt terrible for the fans that had already spent a lot of money. I have stayed silent since that time and have read many forums and blogs on the topic.
Recently, talk has heated up and doubt has been placed on the event once again as the new convention date of May 13th is quickly approaching. I am going to write about this now as I have been sent a good number of emails concerning the new alligations that people have been making. People want to know what I know. One thing that I will say is that most everything I know is second hand knowledge, and that is never proof postive of exactly what has happened.
Now, I have read every single bit of info on this whole situation as it started to unfold. Concerns go back much further than this month, or the postponement in July 2010. My recollection goes back to January 2010 when Mario Kirner and his Friday the 13th Props Museum were to be featured at the Camp Blood event. Mario was trying to solidify the arrangements of shipping his props to the United States from Germany and he could not settle on an agreement with John Gray, the promoter of the event. In essence, cost and where to ship the props were the hold up in the deal. Apparently, Mario could not get the proper shipping address or the correct person to put his cargo's attention to. Eventually, poor communication on the part of the show led Mario to back out.
Around February and into March of 2010, vendors started asking where they could ship their merchandise that they were going to sell at the convention. Reading the Camp Blood forums, those vendors were not getting responses via email on where to ship their product. Then in July 2010, one of those would-be vendors placed a call to the hotel where the event was to be held and that is when all of this unfortunate mess really began. As most everyone knows now, that hotel basically cancelled whatever agreement they had with Camp Blood LLC. And as most everyone knows, the convention community, the Friday the 13th fans, and even other organizers were stirred into a frenzy. The convention was rescheduled and new hotel eventually booked.
After the intitial storm calmed in late Summer of 2010, all stayed quiet. During that time. there were still small rumblings of guests that were never contacted to be part of the show at all, personal emails posted in forums and the usual bashing of the show. During this down time in the Fall of 2010, I can say that I have been in contact with a few celebrities that were mentioned to be a part of the show as well as people within the convention circles and things were not looking very good. Outside of these facts that are first hand from the mouths of the people involved, I cannot definitevly say what is exactly true or not.
The only advice I can offer is follow the story lines that have unfolded and make your own decisions on what has happened. There is a lot of stuff I have been told and some I know as fact, but I won't post any of that here as it really isn't the business of the general public. I encourage people to read up on what has happened, but try to keep an objective mind. Some people get caught up in the Internet bashing and maybe the promoters of the event have brought it upon themselves. However, look at the facts.
You can no longer buy tickets to this event as the show's Paypal account has been closed. There has been no update on this event since Late Summer 2010, possibly even July? Friday the 13th actors and actresses are publicly stating that they are now not attending. However, The Crowne Plaza, where the convention is to be held, is stating that Camp Blood is scheduled to take place there. A positive sign for those people who are still planning on attending. The promoter initially offered to refund people that could not absolutely make it to the event, but now seems to be backing off of that statement. Also, the webmaster of the official website has stated in their forum that he has not had the time to update the site to eliminate certain guests that will not be attending. So, that list is not current or accurate.
Closing out my thoughts, I won't speak on this again in a public forum. I feel everyone's pain. I bought plane tickets and had to reschedule to another destination and lost money doing so. I can understand everyone's frustration. It has been a terrible experience for everyone invloved. Reputations have been ruined and frienships have been broken. I just hate seeing this drag on for as long as it has. I wish John could lay some doubt to rest and just say one way, alright only half or less of our inititial guest are going to show, or the other way, the show is cancelled.
I wish John and convention luck as they are going to need to throw one heck of a show this May to erase any doubts. Please leave your thoughts below and keep it civil and on point. It would be appreciated!
Recently, talk has heated up and doubt has been placed on the event once again as the new convention date of May 13th is quickly approaching. I am going to write about this now as I have been sent a good number of emails concerning the new alligations that people have been making. People want to know what I know. One thing that I will say is that most everything I know is second hand knowledge, and that is never proof postive of exactly what has happened.
Now, I have read every single bit of info on this whole situation as it started to unfold. Concerns go back much further than this month, or the postponement in July 2010. My recollection goes back to January 2010 when Mario Kirner and his Friday the 13th Props Museum were to be featured at the Camp Blood event. Mario was trying to solidify the arrangements of shipping his props to the United States from Germany and he could not settle on an agreement with John Gray, the promoter of the event. In essence, cost and where to ship the props were the hold up in the deal. Apparently, Mario could not get the proper shipping address or the correct person to put his cargo's attention to. Eventually, poor communication on the part of the show led Mario to back out.
Around February and into March of 2010, vendors started asking where they could ship their merchandise that they were going to sell at the convention. Reading the Camp Blood forums, those vendors were not getting responses via email on where to ship their product. Then in July 2010, one of those would-be vendors placed a call to the hotel where the event was to be held and that is when all of this unfortunate mess really began. As most everyone knows now, that hotel basically cancelled whatever agreement they had with Camp Blood LLC. And as most everyone knows, the convention community, the Friday the 13th fans, and even other organizers were stirred into a frenzy. The convention was rescheduled and new hotel eventually booked.
After the intitial storm calmed in late Summer of 2010, all stayed quiet. During that time. there were still small rumblings of guests that were never contacted to be part of the show at all, personal emails posted in forums and the usual bashing of the show. During this down time in the Fall of 2010, I can say that I have been in contact with a few celebrities that were mentioned to be a part of the show as well as people within the convention circles and things were not looking very good. Outside of these facts that are first hand from the mouths of the people involved, I cannot definitevly say what is exactly true or not.
The only advice I can offer is follow the story lines that have unfolded and make your own decisions on what has happened. There is a lot of stuff I have been told and some I know as fact, but I won't post any of that here as it really isn't the business of the general public. I encourage people to read up on what has happened, but try to keep an objective mind. Some people get caught up in the Internet bashing and maybe the promoters of the event have brought it upon themselves. However, look at the facts.
You can no longer buy tickets to this event as the show's Paypal account has been closed. There has been no update on this event since Late Summer 2010, possibly even July? Friday the 13th actors and actresses are publicly stating that they are now not attending. However, The Crowne Plaza, where the convention is to be held, is stating that Camp Blood is scheduled to take place there. A positive sign for those people who are still planning on attending. The promoter initially offered to refund people that could not absolutely make it to the event, but now seems to be backing off of that statement. Also, the webmaster of the official website has stated in their forum that he has not had the time to update the site to eliminate certain guests that will not be attending. So, that list is not current or accurate.
Closing out my thoughts, I won't speak on this again in a public forum. I feel everyone's pain. I bought plane tickets and had to reschedule to another destination and lost money doing so. I can understand everyone's frustration. It has been a terrible experience for everyone invloved. Reputations have been ruined and frienships have been broken. I just hate seeing this drag on for as long as it has. I wish John could lay some doubt to rest and just say one way, alright only half or less of our inititial guest are going to show, or the other way, the show is cancelled.
I wish John and convention luck as they are going to need to throw one heck of a show this May to erase any doubts. Please leave your thoughts below and keep it civil and on point. It would be appreciated!
This is a terrible situation.
ReplyDeleteI feel very sorry for the fans who spent their money on this scam.
By the way,jasonsfury it's great to find you here, I always enjoy reading your posts!
I saw you post here previsouly, rgz. I am glad you found my website and are continuing to visit! I hope you can enjoy my posts just as much as before. :)
ReplyDeleteI bought a platinum pass for this way back. Still deciding whether to attend or not as it's a return trip from Australia for me! Majorly disappointed about this situation. I'll still support the show, so long as the organisers make an official announcement soon on the definitive guest list.
ReplyDeleteIt was such a great idea, and potential great experience for the fans that all went to hell. It also left a bad taste in a lot of celebrities mouths that won't want to appear. They can only hope most people will be over by the time it comes around again. I hope it does do well if it ever happens because that can only lead to greater things.
ReplyDeleteIt sucks that we can't get our money back for something we paid for last January!!!
ReplyDeleteWe were never notified that it was going to be changed.....which was only 10 days before the event was scheduled to happen!
I flew to Dallas for 5 days because I couldn't change my flights ($125 each to change)...had pre-paid hotel & car rental.........I lost a total of $1000. not including the $178 for tickets!!!
At least we got to meet up with Lar Park Lincoln who was very nice and we all had drinks & food.
John needs to refund everyone and just call it quits!!!
He can't get money for tickets now anyway since his paypal account is closed!!!......no paypal no ticket sales.....no show!!!
Hi Jasonfury!!! Nice to see you back in action!
ReplyDeleteHey man. Great that you stopped by. I sent you a message at Camp Blood. You will like it. :) Enjoy your time here!
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ReplyDeleteI sincerely feel terrible for everyone, especially those that were to come from across the pond. I can't imagine the money and time lost. I wish somthing could be done to make everyone happy. I am pretty sure customers will not get their money back.
I've decided to make the best of a bad situation by going to Return to Camp Blood!
ReplyDeleteI was very excited one year ago about this convention (first time for me in the US from Italt and friday convention? SUPER).
ReplyDeleteI didn't make a count of how much money me and my gf lost with planes and other stuffs and I have to agree with Jason, I'm pretty sure that noone will get money back...
At least we have Weekend of Horrors in Germany here in Europe :)
But see that is all messed up!!!
ReplyDeleteWe bought something that we thought we were going to in August!!!......Now John claims he is still having the show but at least 15 actors that I know of canceled already.....most the main stars of each movie!!!
This is such false advertising and fraud since we have been left in smoke with regaurds of whats going on!!!!.......it was our money that helped put all of this together....so we should now have the choice with what to do about it.......go or not go..and still get a full refund!!!
I work for a major corporation and if we did something like that we would have such a hard time gaining new clients and new revenue!!!
How can he have a show without selling new tickets to new people????......His paypal account was closed due to too many complaints......and I'm quoting a supervisor from Pay-Pal directly!!!